RESEARCH WITH YOUR DNA
WHAT KIND OF RESULTS?
Analysis of My DNA
|There are THREE kinds of DNA tests for
genealogy purposes. They are best explained first hand from the
I also find this blog very informational:
Y-dna testing is only available for males, telling the
ancestry of the paternal surname straight line back (unless there was an
oops at some point in time).
MtDNA is available for anyone, telling the maternal
line straight back, surname changing every generation, mother's mother's
Until recently all those other families in the middle
were out of luck. That is the Family Finder or Autosomal test, now
available to anyone.
Ancestry reg $99 various sales, tests autosomal only, no maternal line
ID, or Y paternal. They used to, but cut back to now doing only 1/3 of
the job, messing up people who may
have tested their parents/ grandparents who can't take a test elsewhere
anymore. My opinion is don't waste your money. Not really a dna company,
just an add-on to beef up their website subscriptions.
23&me reg $99 various sales.
(I initially paid $299, price went down). Tests autosomal like Ancestry
does, PLUS basic
indicators for Y line if male, and mtdna for all. Generally the best
place overall. No subsequent "upgrades" to buy. I tested my parents
here. Very detailed info.
Family Tree dna - I spent well over $1000 here with all their come-ons.
"Here's some info, only $100 if you want more, oh and we also have this
other test for $200..." Autosomal test here is also $99, sometimes on sale, but NO Y or mtdna info. They sell those tests separately. If
trying to solve a Y-line problem, they can be worth the Y test.
This is where the National Assn Of Leavitt Families has their Y-Leavitt
All 3 give you the option of connecting with others of similar dna
markers. These 3 companies do have large comparison databases to find
|What did I learn from these tests?
I first tested with Family Tree DNA - FTDNA. All 3 tests
are separate and costly, with numerous upgrades, ending up in the
thousands of dollars. It requires a simple cheek swab. I also was not
happy with the quality of the results, showing me 90.82%
Western European and 9.18% Middle Eastern [way off the mark]. I found no
more specific breakdown. Cousin matches seemed to
show few common surnames in our ancestries.
MY test at FTDNA: My Y-dna Rhoades line belongs to
Haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1 (note disagreement by 23&me). FTDNA also matched
my paternal line to people named Peavey instead of Rhoades. They even
got my haplogroups wrong for my father and mother. Since the
cousin matches showed no relation at all, and Ancestry and 23andme both
agree to disagree with FTDNA, and give me cousin matches that DO match
on paper, I question FTDNA. Dec 2014: awaiting
a Rhoades cousin who tested here to see how we match.
Genealogists on Facebook discussions have mentioned that
it is not an exact science, especially after the first few digits, so
ftdna might be correct.
Ancestry.com and 23andme.com both use the same test,
using a saliva sample.
23&me is the Company they used the first season of
the PBS TV show "Finding Your Roots" before Ancestry became a
sponsor. I paid $299 each for my parents' tests
and was delighted, because it tested all 3 (paternal, maternal, and
autosomal) for one price. I had also tested myself at Ancestry.com
for $99. 23&me in December 2012 lowered their test cost to $99 until they reach
one million tests to improve their matches with cousins around the
world, thanks to a grant to further their research. The only difference between these two companies is that,
Ancestry does not give you your complete analysis or paternal/maternal
data, and 23&me does, and gives
more detailed analysis. I have received
contact info for MANY cousins with both these tests, and can see
comparing family trees who our common ancestors are. Comparing the
common ancestors and the common dna strands can help determine which
strands are passed down from which families to help identify future
|MY test at Ancestry.com :
No classifications of haplogroups.
89% British Isles and 11% Central European (covering
France, Germany, Sweden). Seems to tell nothing more specific than that.
But cousin matches from dna do seem to match paper trails (from close to
Aug 2014: They have expanded what they tell you. I
am now: 97% European @ 32% Great Britian, 31% Europe West, 18% Ireland,
11% Scandinavia. Trace regions include: 2% European Jewish, 2% Iberian
Peninsula, 1% Italy/Greece, < 1% Europe East, and 3% West Asia/Caucasus.
Ancestry also announced Summer 2014 that they will no
longer test or keep results for Y-dna or mtdna, only the autosomal,
making it worthless in my book compared to 23&me. It is a
heart-breaker for people who had their elderly relatives tested here who
are no longer around to test with a real dna company.
My Father's side - Roland Rhoades III
tree at 23andme :
23&me says his paternal Y Rhoades haplogroup is
R1b1b2a1a2d3 which disagrees with FTDNA.
Goes back to Henry Rhodes of Lynn MA, born 1608
England. Any other Rhoades cousins out there wanting to test and
This test showed 100% European, broken down as 37.9%
British & Irish (includes Scotch/Welsh), 7.5% French & German, 7.1%
Scandinavian, and 42.5% "Nonspecific Northern European", and .2% Italian
and 3.9% "Non-specific Southern European". Nonspecific means they
do not yet have the comparative data to pin it down, but it will
eventually increase the Scandinavian and French amounts. This is one
reason why they dropped the price to build their database to a million
users. The test also showed .1% Ashkenazi Jewish and .8% Non-specific
European, and <.1% Native American (that kinda blows a hole in my
grandfather's story about his g-grandmother being an Indian princess!).
This test also showed 2.7% Neanderthal dna.
Aug 2014 Update his results have been refined: 99.8%
European, broken down as 41% British & Irish, 14.8% French & German,
8.2% Scandinavian, 29.9% Broadly Northern European, 1.3% Iberian, .5%
Broadly Southern European, .1% Ashkenazi, 4.1% Broadly European; .2%
East Asian & Native American, .1% Mongolian, <.1% Native American.
Still 2.7% Neanderthal dna.
His Maternal Haplogroup is U2e1a (this group expanded into Europe 35,000 years ago with
some of the first humans to inhabit the continent.) This line would be:
Marion Boudway (my grandmother) > Agnes Peterson of Sweden > Johanna Gross > Emilia
Augusta Borjesson > Anna Svensdotter b 1790 Goteborg county > Brita
Maria Hansdotter - of Sweden but those patrilineal names confuse
ancestry. I would never know that if I hadn't tested my father
before it was too late. Test the oldest people in your family;
each new generation dilutes the gene pool by 50%.
His major families: Rhoades, Reynolds, Simpson,
Thayer, Humes; Flagg, Hallowell, Briggs, French; Boudway/Beaudoin,
Pooler, Crozier, LaChance; Peterson, Gross, Holmen, Borjesson.
test at 23andme (Roland Rhoades IV):
With both my parents
having different results than my test at FTDNA, I was actually beginning
to wonder if maybe I got switched at the hospital with another baby.
But, my 23andme test also shows my paternal dna is exactly the same
haplogroup, as it should be: R1b1b2a1a2d3. This is a
subgroup of R1b1b2, the most common haplogroup in western Europe, with
distinct branches in specific regions. Populations include Irish,
Basques, British, and French, and the group is about 17,000 years old.
Cousin matches from dna
DO match the paper trail.
|My Mother's side - Muriel Robertson
Rhoades tree at 23&me.com :
Her Maternal Haplogroup is H6a1b2.
European, broken down as 57% Bristish & Irish (includes Scotch/Welsh),
12.5% French & German, 3.7% Scandinavian, and 25.7% "Nonspecific
Northern European", and .3% "Non-specific Southern European".
Nonspecific means they do not yet have the comparative data to pin it
down. This is one reason why they dropped the price to build their
database to a million users. The test also showed .8% Non-specific
European, and <.1% South Asian (India). This test also showed 2.9%
Aug 2014 her results have been refined: 99.9%
European, broken down as 64.8% British & Irish, 12.7% French & German,
2.3% Scandinavian, 16% Broadly Northern European, .2% Italian, 2.1%
Broadly Southern European, 1.8% Broadly European, .1% unassigned. 2.9%
Her major families: Robertson,
McFarlane, McCullough, Mitchell, Safford, Jumper, Cordwell, Rogers;
Leavitt, Morgridge, Stinneford, Trafton, Penney, Russell, Mason, Walls.
at 23andme (Roland Rhoades IV):
My mtdna test agrees with my mother's, as it should, as
H6a1b2. H6 is a
relatively ancient offshoot of H that arose about 30,000 years ago,
before the Ice Age peak, and moved east into central Asia. Fairly recent
migrations have brought H6a into western Europe over the last few
Again, FTDNA was different, telling
me My maternal line haplogroup is H6a1a2a.
mtdna maternal ancestry is: Muriel Ruth Robertson > Edith Maude Leavitt
1889 > Ellura Mae Stinneford 1860 > Lupira B Trafton 1832 > Margaret
Jane Penney 1795 > Molly/Mary Gowen 1759 > Kesiah Cole 1729 > Bethiah
Spencer 1698 > Mary ( ) 1663 md John Spencer, all born in Maine,
earliest 5 in Wells, York area. Any cousins out there?
Total ancestry composition shows 100% European, broken down as 43.7%
British & Irish (includes Scotch/Welsh), 9.9% French & German, 8.9%
Scandinavian, and 35.8 Non-specific Northern European, .7% Nonspecific
Southern European, and .9% Nonspecific European. Also shows < .1% South
Asian. Also 2.8% Neanderthal dna.
results have been refined: 99.5% European, broken down as 46.5% British
& Irish, 21% French & German, 8.4% Scandinavian, 21.5% Broadly Northern
European, .2% Italian, .2% Broadly Southern European, .1% Ashkenazi,
1.6% Broadly European; .1% East Asian & Native American, .1% Broadly
East Asian, <.1% Broadly East Asian & Native American, .3% Unassigned.
Still 2.8% Neanderthal dna.
|GEDMATCH.COM - I will be
uploading my data from all 5 tests to this free impartial analysis
website as soon as I get time.
I just learned
from the Gedmatch.com Discussion Facebook page, that gedmatch only
matches autosomal dna, not Y or mtdna.
|MY RECOMMENDATIONS: For both price,
and quality and substance of results, get your test kit NOW from
23andme.com for only $99, and tell all your friends and relatives.
(Actually, please email me: if
I email you a referral, they will give me a $10 Amazon giftcard.) 23andme also gives you the technical dna strand identifications for
further analysis and comparison. If you have a problem Y paternal
line to track down, I recommend Ftdna for their family group
If you are one of my cousins -
Maternal: Robertson, McFarlane, Safford,
Leavitt, Stinneford, Morgridge, Mason, or Paternal: Rhoades, Flagg, Hallowell,
French, Reynolds, Boudway, Pooler, Peterson, Gross, etc, I hope you will test so we can see how we
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